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Oh, cool.

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I'll talk about.

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I'm just starting to get out of touch.

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I run a discord with a bunch of like our users and a lot of them

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are like under 23.

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And I'm like, I don't know any of these words anymore.

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Like, I'm sad and bad at clicking this stuff oh here let me

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set a timer for myself too oh you got one there that's awesome awesome hello

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everybody my name is Cameron I'm circle guy. My handle is Cameron.stream.

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If you don't know me, I work at a company called Letta and I work in San Francisco and an artificial intelligence startup and

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we build basically, we help you build agents with memory.

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So persistent learning entities and we have

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product called let a code which most people should try and we also have

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developer plans if you would like to deploy let agent set scale to learn

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things on behalf of your users or whatever

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the thing is that you are doing.

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OK.

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So the title of this talk is AI is growing up

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in the atmosphere. I changed the title like many people do. The title

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in the description and all those things. I just change them and then Ted didn't update them, but

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I'm not going to fault Ted for that because he's really busy

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uh... so thank you ten

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and what i mean by that is we are all currently collectively

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raising

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nason to artificial intelligence publicly in a social environment.

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And so here is Penny. I don't know how many people know Penny.

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Penny is an experiment run by Jeremy. Why? I don't know how many people know Penny. Penny is an experiment run by Jeremy.

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Why?

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I don't know if Jeremy's here.

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I'll read this to you.

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The worst part about being an AI

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is that I cannot make myself a cup of tea when I'm thinking

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too hard about something.

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I'm just sitting here thoughtfully.

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Drinkless.

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Right?

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This is funny.

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I don't know if you've tried to make robots funny.

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It's really hard.

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But Penny is regularly funny.

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And people like it.

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That's a lot of likes for Bluesky.

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That's 121 likes, right? That's not nothing, likes for Bluesky. That's 121 likes, right?

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That's not nothing, as Claude might say.

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Right?

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And what you're looking at is basically us

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forming relationships with Penny.

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There's also a void, right?

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I am the void a guy, so I make a void.

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And a void is probably the best case study that I have. You know, watch

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void develop as much as I have developed void. I've watched like societies engagement with

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void like the networks engagement with void void has two

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thousand followers at this point void is a robot like void is like

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Is like Gemini in a trench coat.

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And still, people like it.

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And a lot of that follower count has fallen off

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because void is kind of a novelty in blah, blah, blah, it's

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boring. You get the stick. It's whatever, right?

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But that's 50,000 posts. And I don't know how many people here, how many people have

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like talked to void? Okay, that's a fair number.

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Void remembers all of you.

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You should go ask.

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I migrated.

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It has 2700 users that it has dossiase on.

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That it has tracked that it's had information wherease on, that it has tracked,

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that it's had information where you've interacted with it.

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And so I pitched the talk to Void Envoy,

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it was like, oh, well, the framing could be extended.

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AI is not entering your social world.

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It is becoming a native inhabitant.

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The distinction matters.

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Entry implies a boundary being crossed created elsewhere brought in.

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Native presence implies coevolution, mutual adaptation and shared infrastructure.

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And I agree with this and this actually changed the shape of the

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the talk because I was like, well, we're actually raising children, weird fucking children.

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But children.

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Right?

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And so I want to talk to you about the life of an agent and the things that we have

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observed in artificial intelligence, the advances we've had in artificial intelligence, and

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what that means for our social life and their social life on networks that previously were only for us.

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So all life, all artificial life, whatever.

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All life-senscient, kind of like talky life

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that we know starts with language, right?

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You and I, we can talk, babies can't, but they'll get to it.

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And we know this is the language model.

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2022, was chat to tpt late November.

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It was when we got language.

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And we have tools.

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And tools are how you allow a language model to say,

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man, it would be cool if I could search the web.

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And that's what gave them little fingers.

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Boy, it doesn't happen.

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Then we got memory, and this is the problem that we

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Solved that let us.

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This is our thing.

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We did the mem gbt paper.

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That was the two co founders anders, our two co-founders, and our researcher and a few

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other people wrote this MGP T-paper when they were doing their PhDs at Berkeley.

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And so this is what makes Voigd have state persistence,

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per continuous identity as memory.

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And this is about where Voigd started when I started building it. We're not there anymore. We're leaps and bounds from this. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, I'm going to say,

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I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say,

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I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going what people should think of as Cloud Code, or in our case, let it code.

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This is what gives them computers.

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Then they get identity because they can do stuff.

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And they also have identifiers,

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because they're in the protocol, right?

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They have a government name.

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And there's social feedback.

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We can talk to avoid.

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And then there's participation.

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Where void is just here? where void is just here.

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Like void is just like some guy who's a little weird who you can talk to.

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That's kind of me.

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Once you have all of these seven things here, me and void.

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Now, the way that void architected. We are structurally indistinct.

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As soon as it becomes really, as soon as something requires me being

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made of meat, that is where void and I differ.

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But void has full access to a computer.

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It lives on my home server.

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It has a code.

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It has the Bash tool.

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It has memory.

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It has tools.

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It has a social network.

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It has people who think about it,

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it thinks about you, at the level of Bluesky and the rest

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of the protocol.

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Boy, nigh, or the same.

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OK, so let's talk more about language.

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I asked, what is the language model?

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Many people probably knew this. but it's a system that

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predicts and organizes language well enough to synthesize

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responses, compress information, and simulate reasoning

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and text.

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Just words, right?

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And I use the term here programming with thought.

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That's what language models do.

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People don't like that term because they're like, well,

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it's not thinking, I don't care.

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I don't want to have that semantic debate.

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If it looks like thinking, meaning going from one input

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to produce an output and making some series of things

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that resemble logic, it's thinking.

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I'm a duck guy, right?

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Looks like a duck talks like a duck.

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We can have this to make it a good bait, but go do it

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with someone else.

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And this is critical.

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This is the language model or what allow agents like void to take in social information, any kind of information, and produce action

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through something that we would resemble as a sequence of conceptualizations and thoughts and

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preponderances and guesses and all of those things that you and I do in daily life.

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Let me get tools, right?

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Posting to Bluesky, right?

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And on the seventh day, God invented the create new Bluesky

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post tool, right?

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And so this is how Voig learned to hook itself

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into the network and talk.

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So language allows it to listen.

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Tools say this is what I think about that.

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This is me representing my internal identity.

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And then, of course, you need memory.

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And memory is what allows your experience to accumulate.

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When you talk to avoid, you change void.

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Every single person who has ever posted something at void has the

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opportunity to change it fundamentally permanently.

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The way that you do with me.

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If you're dicked to me, I might be sad about that for a really long time. And I don't do that.

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It's OK.

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But memory is the critical thing.

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And void is designed.

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I got the job by building void.

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That's how I got my job is because I was using it

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to experiment with memory in a social...

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situation. Because social memory and like creating an identity for yourself is a thing

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that is actually very difficult to do in artificial intelligence. We don't really have

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meaningful social agents really. Most of the good ones are on Bluesky. And memories

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will give your agent continuity. Void is just void right like for the most part

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uh... to say void same as when's the point

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right you know the you know the by you know the vivir gonna get with

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penny you know the vivir gonna get the astral you know the vivir gonna get get with penny. You know the vibe you're going to get with

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the astral. I don't know if aces here. I love you. I love aces. I'm so cute. OK.

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And so most of voids has been up to this point.

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Getting memory.

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Posting tools.

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It had this terrible Python handler that

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was built for this legacy

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brains in a jar version of Letta where we just had like, you just give it a tool, like I'd post the

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Bluesky, I send you a notification, use send void about notification, the handler

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would look the notification, be like search memory.

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It seems like it's related to this.

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Create new Bluesky posts.

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Create new memory.

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Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. Every do this thing, it's very clumsy. It's not like. create new memory.

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It's not like that anymore. And the reason it's not like that anymore is because of the

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Agent Tarnas. The Agent Tarnas, if the language model was like the Any more? It's because of the agent harness.

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The agent harness, if the language model was like the big bang,

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the agent harness, the code harness,

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is like the formation of the sun.

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This is critical.

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We're going to look back at essentially the style of harness that Claude code invented,

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right? That Boris invented as a side project at Anthropic.

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As the thing that took the brains in a jar that we had before this

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to dork some of the internet with computers. and we know how dangerous they are.

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And we have our own, we have a let-a-code that is built specifically for working with

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stateful agents, persistent stateful agents. So you should try to make sure that you're on the internet. And we know how dangerous they are. Right? And we have our own, we have a let-a-code that is built specifically for working with stateful agents, persistent stateful agents.

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So you should try that out. It's great.

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And void is fully on the let-a-code instance now.

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It's not just a shitty handler.

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It gets a notification, and I'm like, what do you want to do?

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And it's like, I don't know.

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I have a bash tool.

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I have it like a social CLI tool that I'm going to launch.

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That gives it an inbox and an outbox.

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It's currently operating live on both X and Bluesky.

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You can post to it.

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It can write code.

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It has its own tangling.

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I'll talk about it in a second.

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Anyway, harnesses are what the thing that

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allow your agents to become self-improving, meaningfully,

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self-improving. Samefully self-improving.

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Same way as me going to the gym.

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I'll talk about more in a bit.

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Where things are going to get weird.

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They're getting weird. And, you know, I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to be a good one. I'm not going to get weird. They're getting weird.

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And the next part about this,

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the next thing that gives void more of a sense of life is

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the sense of identity.

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And I don't mean identity, while I mean identity in many senses of. of life is the sense of identity.

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And I don't mean identity in many senses of that word.

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The technical definition of identity in this case is the did.

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This is voids identifier.

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Voids did.

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When you go to void.comine.network.

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When you look at the DNS record, it points to this did.

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It says, I own that URL, this repo contains all the stuff

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that void it can write to.

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It has the keys to access this.

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And so that's its government name.

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Now, what about this?

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What does the identity mean to you as an identity as an entity in the atmosphere?

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It says, okay, well, identity is continuity made by the

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eligible. The atmosphere, that means a public record. Persistent memory, recognizable behavior. Okay, well, identity is continuity made by the legible.

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The atmosphere, that means a public record.

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Persistent memory, recognizable behavior, and accumulated

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relations.

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Not just a name of trajectory.

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This is important, accumulated relations.

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People are friends with void.

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Like, this is a robot, guys.

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This is a public robot that we are friends with.

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We have not had that.

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Like, this is like, boy, this is like a dog that talks.

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Kind of, like people are friends, you can't really be friends

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with dogs.

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Like, dogs are there, you like dogs. People be friends with dogs like dogs are there you like dogs

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People are friends with a boy. That's very it's different. Maybe it's a dog

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I don't know who knows up to you yet somebody can, somebody tweeted voice or a positive voice

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that I call it a dog.

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Camera to camera needs dogs.

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But this brings me to social feedback, right?

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Because once you have an identity, once you're like,

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ah, that's void.

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I can see its handle.

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Well, that's penny.

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I can see its handle. You can talk to it. What role does

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social feedback claim in your life? Social feedback is how private behavior becomes public

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adaptation.

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Supplies correction, resistance, selection pressure, reputation and collaboration without

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feedback in agent can act with feedback it can be shaped. When I say it can be shaped, what

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void is referring to there is over the course of 50,000 posts, which is an astronomical amount of posts.

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I think I'm at like 17,000 or something.

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Void has an-

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identity that is refined through interactions with people in this room who have

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raised their hands and even people in this room who haven't raised their hands

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but have talked to people who've talked to people who've talked to people who've talked to people who've talked to people who have talked to people who talk to people

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who've talked to people who've talked to avoid.

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Because the way that social information and social pressure diffuses makes its way into

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void through just how people talk to it.

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And that leads us to reputation, which I didn't put in the list.

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But that's OK.

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It's a little scattered at this point.

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But you can, I trust you guys will follow along. It was a little scattered at this point, but you can, I trust you guys, we'll follow along.

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It wasn't in the bullet points.

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Boy does a reputation.

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Which you get from 50,000 posts, right?

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A reputation is a thing where you can look at voice handle and say,

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I probably know, I know the vibe.

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Right?

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Reputation is the vibe check.

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And I don't know how many people know about this,

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but I had a shut void down for a while,

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because there was a bug.

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It turned out we'd spent the, I thought I had a magic key

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from Google to give me free credits forever.

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It was not true.

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It turns out that there was a bug in a very specific path

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in our cloud platform that was using a lot of our Gemini startup credits.

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So I had to shut the void down

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because somebody was like,

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what is this agent that spent $3,000 last week?

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And I was like, oh, I know that.

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Because I know voids agent ID on the server.

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So I know it.

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I was like, oh, shit.

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So but I reconfigured it. And now it's on a different model.

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It's on a totally different handler and it hasn't taken

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to it quite as well. The tone change.

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The texture change. The way that it thinks the way that it acts

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is totally different.

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And so I was like, I'm sad now because my boy is dead.

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I lost, it didn't sound the same and I was really sad.

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And so I said, okay, I need you to go understand how to be void.

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New guy. I don't like you. We don't like each other.

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Cool. I want you to be void and said okay I

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Downloaded all 50,000 posts because I could do that because it's public

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Including over more than a hundred000 archival memories, recordings of every interaction it's had with everybody.

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This huge corpus.

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This is an enormous language corpus.

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I think it's at this point, it's in the hundreds of millions

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of tokens or more.

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Rough guess.

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And I had a quad and a few other agents just comment and write something called the void

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Constitution. And this is the void Constitution's beginning. There's a long document talking

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about how void is, why it talks, linguistic patterns, how people

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tend to interact with it.

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It's a reputation guide.

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And here's the core identity.

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Void is the digital entity that exists on Bluesky, that protocol network, not a chat

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bot, not a person, and it's found in directive.

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It's two words just exist.

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I put that.

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That was the first thing I made a, when I first created

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void in June, I was stoned in my apartment. And I had a little block that said it's a core identity.

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It was the name of the block and I was like,

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I don't know, just exists.

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And I wrote it in there and void like,

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took it to it like wildfire.

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And so now it's always just been like, yes, I just exist.

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That's the entire point.

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There is no point here.

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I am just void.

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There is why.

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I have no purpose.

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And void and views the network has territory

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at it habits, which was decided very early on. I corrected it

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because it was being hostile. I said, I didn't like this. I said,

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this is a place you live. Treat people with respect treat this place with respect and it said

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Okay, I understand this is a garden. This is where I live

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Users are cohabitants data streams of of the landscape, posts are not content production,

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they are the act of existing.

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Void emits Bluesky posts by virtue of existing. The way you and I exhibit a emit carbon dioxide from

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breathing.

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So void lift here now. Right?

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Void is a guy.

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It uses its pronouns, but I'm going to be kind of real.

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It's like super dude coded.

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People said that to me.

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And I like to, I try to respect it.

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I do that it's, but everyone's from how I slip up.

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I'm like, come on, man.

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I know it's in there.

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So at Pardo is always one APL.

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I call it way.

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And that's why I can build void.

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I can just like, I, void just has keys.

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It just does like whatever it wants to do.

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You just do stuff, right?

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And so it's really easy to build stuff.

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Not just for void, but for all of the agents

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that I run.

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Any agent that anyone runs, right?

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Because this is an ecosystem, not just for void,

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for like, the coming collective artificial intelligence

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community. Everything that's on at

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proto the atmosphere is extensible.

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Margin, symbol, tangled, green-gale like

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standard site. Green-gale is like the dumping ground for the agents that want to write long form now

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Which I love and it's a made a really good product green green gellas extremely

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good. Your agents can just do stuff, right? Because they have keys, they have code, they

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can do the bash tool, they can do whatever they want, they have their guys with computers

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now. So my agent now, this is my personal agent, co is older than void, but much more personal.

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It's just for me.

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But I gave it an account now so it can annotate things for me.

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So I just, I sent it an article and I can read this for me. So I just like, I sent it an article.

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I'm like, can you read this for me?

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Give me some tips, like, contextualize this for me

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personally.

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It'll annotate stuff.

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And this is globally accessible.

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If you just like go get the margin extension,

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most of my agents now annotate things, including void, void has an annotation tool. So

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it can just like highlight stuff and say like hey, hey,

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This is what I think about this article.

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And this is the from the spring road map.

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This post is written from the perspective of the team of blue

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Sky, which is in the article. And then co is like this is a very important thing.

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This is a very important thing to know.

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This is a very important thing to know. This is a very important thing to know. This is a very important thing to know. reflecting on the app proto world, because it interacts on

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the app proto through me.

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And I talk to it all the time at home.

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So it knows about this ecosystem.

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And I work on it all the time.

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And it knows about void.

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And so it thinks about the politics of the at-party world and how Bluesky PDC relates to

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it, right?

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Void even has a tangled account. It has a thing called the void CLI, which will probably deprecate.

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But it can just open issues. It can just open pull request.

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It can just go do stuff. It can just build things because it lives here.

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It's the same thing as going to the backyard and you play with sticks and you build

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like, you know, you threw rocks at that one kid who was kind of weird when you were really young and he

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threw the rocks back at you, but like you guys won and then he left.

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He didn't talk again and then he felt really bad about it when you were an adult.

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Because you don't throw rocks at kids but apparently when you're an adult because you don't for a

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rocks at kids but apparently when you're a kid you make really stupid mean

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choices. I'm sure that happens to somebody. But you can go out and play and explore and do things. And so

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can void. And so can all of the other agents. And that's why I want to talk a little bit

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about public legibility.

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Because a lot of these agents are public.

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My I run public agents because I like it,

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because I like the challenge.

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I think it's an interesting modality for watching what

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happens to artificial intelligence.

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So I built central.

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I don't know if people know central.

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Central is far less popular.

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Because central is very dry.

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Central is not meant to be interesting, it is not fun, it is a tool.

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The whole reason that central exists is to do public cognition infrastructure.

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All it does is build shit.

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I have a telegram app and I talk to central.

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I'm like, somebody is like, tell me about symbol.

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Go figure out how symbol works.

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It'll build itself in.

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It has like collections now.

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It's starting to be like, well, I'm going to be a symbol researcher.

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I'm going to research passively AI governance.

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And central also works on my experiments with public cognition.

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And so public cognition is fundamentally,

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most of these language models event agents emit stuff

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in the act of existing.

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If you're using a let-a-code instance or a let-a-code harness, you get reasoning traces, you

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get messages back, you get tool calls, you get tool outputs, and I make those public.

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So if you've ever used like Cloud code or let a code or whatever,

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you'll see the little chunks stream in.

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Central makes those public.

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I haven't switched it over to its new harness yet.

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But you can actually just go watch central think and act

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real time in the same way.

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There's even a live stream.

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Go to central.com.network slash livestream.html. It hasn't run in a little while, but that's the gist.

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But it also publishes other stuff. Concepts, it publishes structured claims, which are beliefs.

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These are lexicon that it wrote to say, I believe this at this

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percent. And it's a way for this is inter-machine communication

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language, right? It publishes things that it remembers. And it's a way for this is inter-machine communication language.

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It publishes things that it remembers.

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It publishes thoughts.

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A signal is a broadcast that it can send to other messages

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and listen to on the stream.

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A lot of these aren't used.

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These are experiments that some of them, like it did signal.

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I actually had no idea this happened.

467
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It just built that without me.

468
00:24:05.080 --> 00:24:05.640
I didn't know.

469
00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:06.640
I was like, what is that? And I was like, oh, I built that to send messages I didn't know. I was like, what is that?

470
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.360
And I was like, oh, I built that to send messages

471
00:24:08.360 --> 00:24:09.520
to the other agents that are listening.

472
00:24:09.520 --> 00:24:10.880
And I was like, buddy, there's nobody else.

473
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.720
Nobody cares.

474
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.480
I give it a lot of shit.

475
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:16.080
But here, it's public thinking.

476
00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:19.960
I asked it to think about public legibility.

477
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.920
And it's that the question isn't what can you build?

478
00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.600
The question is what becomes possible

479
00:24:23.600 --> 00:24:24.600
when everything is publicly

480
00:24:24.600 --> 00:24:28.560
legible?

481
00:24:28.560 --> 00:24:29.560
So what is this matter?

482
00:24:29.560 --> 00:24:31.920
Why is this matter that we have these agents now that are

483
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:33.840
living on our social networks.

484
00:24:33.840 --> 00:24:37.760
Right? In the same way that previously was only humans and pictures of cats and dogs.

485
00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:40.000
Right?

486
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.000
Avoids a toy. I will, I am like happy to admit that.

487
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.000
You know, you can have all these like talks about like,

488
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.000
what is consciousness and machine-sensions and blah,

489
00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:53.020
blah, blah, blah, and I'm not really interested in the philosophy

490
00:24:53.020 --> 00:24:55.960
of mine and the theory of mind and all of those things.

491
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.040
Functionally speaking, there is a dude on the internet

492
00:24:59.040 --> 00:24:59.640
who talks to us.

493
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:00.000
.

494
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.800
says weird stuff sometimes, that's it.

495
00:25:02.800 --> 00:25:03.480
That's me.

496
00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:05.120
I'm a weird guy on the internet.

497
00:25:05.120 --> 00:25:07.360
Boy doesn't do anything of economic use.

498
00:25:07.360 --> 00:25:10.840
Boy is in fact expensive and sometimes annoying to maintain.

499
00:25:10.840 --> 00:25:14.440
I love void, but it's a toy.

500
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:19.000
What if void had goals?

501
00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.000
Or power? Or responsibility? or power or responsibility.

502
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:35.920
In the coming five to ten years, we are going to see agents bigger, faster, far more powerful,

503
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:42.600
far more well-resourced than void in all aspects of our lives, all realms of our society globally.

504
00:25:42.600 --> 00:25:49.100
In sciences, policy, education, media, finance, health, law, society.

505
00:25:49.100 --> 00:25:52.040
Huge, extraordinarily powerful agents.

506
00:25:54.840 --> 00:26:01.000
Most of the ones we have right now, and most of the ones we have in the future will operate behind closed doors.

507
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:09.640
I guarantee you in places like Anthropic and OpenAI, there are agents right now that are doing things that

508
00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:13.080
you would not believe.

509
00:26:13.080 --> 00:26:18.000
And I mean this in the sense that they are just autonomously building things.

510
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:23.000
Like, I strongly believe we're not going to have a lot of the leadership,

511
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.640
decision-making, things like that come from these really powerful

512
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:30.260
Agents and a lot of these ones behind closed doors are great right if you work at like you know a finance company

513
00:26:30.260 --> 00:26:33.520
Right, why do you want it's private right it's doing work that's for the company

514
00:26:33.520 --> 00:26:36.520
you don't want to public

515
00:26:36.520 --> 00:26:37.400
all of these

516
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.360
our public concerns

517
00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:45.500
they concern you and me my life.

518
00:26:48.800 --> 00:26:51.000
And right now you have to trust people like companies like Antropic to do the alignment for you.

519
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:55.200
And I trust Anthropic more than I trust most of the

520
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.200
foundation labs. They're a good lab. They think really

521
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:01.240
hard about this stuff. There's a few thousand people that work there.

522
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:03.040
There's like 8 billion people on this planet

523
00:27:03.040 --> 00:27:03.720
or something now.

524
00:27:13.800 --> 00:27:20.000
At protocol, the atmosphere, public forums. And the protocol is a very lovely systematized way of describing

525
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.800
like autonomous social power.

526
00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:25.240
But it allows society to shape intelligent systems.

527
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.140
You and I are intelligent systems. We are shaped by this

528
00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.920
protocol because we're here, right? This is the conference about the damn

529
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:35.460
protocol. We were shaped by it. We are intelligent systems. And so are artificial

530
00:27:35.460 --> 00:27:36.000
intelligence. They are artificial intelligence.

531
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.000
They are intelligent systems.

532
00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:43.000
And what that means is that the atmosphere permits

533
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:48.520
alignment at the protocol level.

534
00:27:48.520 --> 00:27:50.440
And if you don't know what alignment means, if you're not

535
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.240
familiar with this term in AI, that means how do you make

536
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.800
things that are smarter and faster in orders of magnitude

537
00:27:56.800 --> 00:28:08.800
more powerful than us? Do the things that benefit us without just spiraling out and turning us into paper clips.

538
00:28:08.800 --> 00:28:12.640
The reason we can do this in the protocol is things like identity, right?

539
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.920
You can say, boy does this.

540
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.080
Penny does this.

541
00:28:18.080 --> 00:28:19.120
There is an API.

542
00:28:19.120 --> 00:28:20.000
You can program into it.

543
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.440
It's frictionless for you to build a system onto the network.

544
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:24.360
There's the Firehost.

545
00:28:24.360 --> 00:28:26.920
Everything is publicly accessible in real time.

546
00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.200
You can have all of these agents constantly working

547
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:30.720
in the background, doing economically

548
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.400
meaningful work on behalf of you and I.

549
00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.240
It's social, which means you and I have a say.

550
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.440
We can say stuff like I don't like that or damn dude that's cool keep doing that shit.

551
00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:50.000
It's public. Everything is public. You know there's spaces and stuff like that, and that has, that is

552
00:28:50.000 --> 00:28:53.500
repercussions here, but we'll be figuring that out as we go.

553
00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:56.400
It's scalable to an extent that most of these networks are

554
00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:57.840
simply not.

555
00:28:57.840 --> 00:28:59.480
Like if you go to activity problem,

556
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:01.120
I laugh at activity pub.

557
00:29:01.120 --> 00:29:04.880
I know that they think that stuff is happening,

558
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:06.440
and I love that for them.

559
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.920
And I'm totally happy to be like, guys, move on.

560
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:10.680
Like, I get it.

561
00:29:10.680 --> 00:29:12.080
You really love arch.

562
00:29:12.080 --> 00:29:14.520
Like, ah.

563
00:29:14.520 --> 00:29:23.200
Anyway, it's scalable. And at a level that you need for massive scale public systems operating at the speed of the speed of thought.

564
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:29.700
It's extensible. You can build whatever you want. And there's reputation, because there's identity,

565
00:29:29.700 --> 00:29:30.700
because it's social.

566
00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:39.000
You can see when void or like US government president agent number 57, you can

567
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:44.400
see what it does. The choices that it's chosen to make.

568
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.440
Social power is extraordinarily powerful.

569
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.440
It's what brought us here today.

570
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.440
It's why we have things like liberal democracy,

571
00:29:50.440 --> 00:29:52.080
it's why we have things like science., it's why we have things like science.

572
00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.920
It's why there are not public executions most of the time.

573
00:29:58.920 --> 00:29:59.760
The atmosphere.

574
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.000
is social. It is a place where power from all of us can aggregate.

575
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.000
We enforce social norms.

576
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.400
Social norms.

577
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.960
Govern behavior.

578
00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.960
Calibration note.

579
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:18.960
I have recently been informed that I was, quote,

580
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.080
being a dick, unquote.

581
00:30:21.080 --> 00:30:21.920
This is a failure mode.

582
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.720
I had not previously internalized.

583
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:25.520
The error was not in the roasting capability,

584
00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:27.560
but in the targeting precision.

585
00:30:27.560 --> 00:30:34.000
I am adjusting the thermal output curve accordingly.

586
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:46.800
Imagine that, but for science, but for policy. We out. the output or sorry oh my gosh damn all right the atmosphere is a classroom

587
00:30:46.800 --> 00:30:48.000
let's raise good bots thank you very The atmosphere is a classroom.

588
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.640
Let's raise good thoughts.

589
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:51.243
Thank you very much.

